Gal 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
Iglesia ni Cristo debates 7th Day Adventist (where’s the INC copies???)
December 22, 2009
Ang Iglesia ni cristo ay may dalang tv crew sa araw na ito pero hindi natin nakita ang kanilang kopya, bakt kaya??
Pasugo vs Pasugo (INC cult official newspaper)
September 19, 20091. Who founded the INC?
****Christ?
PASUGO May 1963, p. 13:
“Noong tumalikod ang bayang Israel at sumamba sa diyus-diyosan ay nagsugo ang Dios upang magtatag ng Iglesia”
TRANSLATION:
“When Israel turned away and worshipped false gods, God sent someone to establish His church”.
PASUGO September 1940, p. 1:
“Dapat malaman ng lahat,ayon sa Bagong Tipan, ang tunay na INK ay si Cristo ang nagtatag sapagkat siya ang sinugo ng Dios sa pagtatag nito”.
TRANSLATION:
“Everyone should know, according to the New Testament, that the true INC is the church founded by Christ because he was the one sent by God to establish it”.
PASUGO November 1940, p. 23:
“Iisa lamang ang tanging makapagtatayo ng Iglesyang magiging dapat sa Dios. Kung sino - ang ating Panginoong Jesu-Cristo lamang! Sino mang tao - maging marunong o mangmang, maging dakila o hamak - ay walang karapatang magtayo nang Iglesya”.
TRANSLATION:
“There is only one who can establish the Church which will be of God - that is, our Lord Jesus Christ only! Any man - literate or illiterate, great or simple - does not have the right to establish the Church”.
PASUGO May 1968, p. 7:
“Ang tunay na INK ay iisa lamang. Ito ang Iglesyang itinayo ni Cristo. Kung mayroon mang nagsisibangon ngayong mga Iglesya at sabihing sila man ay Iglesya ni Cristo rin, ang mga ito ay hindi tunay na Iglesya ni Cristo kundi huwad lamang”.
TRANSLATION:
“There is only on true Church of Christ. This is the Church founded by Christ. If there be churches TODAY which will rise and claim that they are also the Church of Christ, these are not the true Church of Christ but are FALSE CHURCHES only”.(emphasis not on original)
****Felix Manalo?
PASUGO Agosto-Setyembre 1964, p.2:
“Sino ang sinugo ng Dios upang magtatag ng Iglesya sa Pilipinas? Sa Isaias 46:11, ay ganito ang sabi: “na tumatawag ng ibong mandaragit mula sa silangan ang taong gumagawa ng aking payo mula sa malayong lupain”. Ayon sa mga kumakaaway sa INK sinasabi raw sa Rehistro na si Felix Manalo ay nagtatag ng INK”.
TRANSLATION:
“Whom did God send to establish the Church in the Philippines? In Isaiah 46:11, it has been said: “Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country”. According to those who oppose the INC, the Registry says that Felix Manalo established the INC”
PASUGO Mayo 1967, p.14:
“Sa panahong ito ng mga wakas ng Lupa na nagsimula sa unang Digmaang Pandaigdig ay tatawag ang Dios sa kanyang huling sugo upang itatag ang kanyang huling Organisasyon. Kung gayon ang INK na lumitaw sa Pilipinas noong 1914, ay siyang Organisasyong Pinangunahan o Pinamahalaan ni Felix Manalo”.
TRANSLATION:
“In the days of the ends of the Earth that started in the First World War, God will call on his last messenger to establish his last Organization. Therefore, the INC which appeared in 1914 is the Organization Headed or Administered by Felix Manalo”
PASUGO Hulyo 1955, nasa panakip:
“Iyon ang Iglesya ni Cristo na dapat pasukan ng lahat ng tao; at ang tanging sugo’y si kapatid na Felix Manalo”.
TRANSLATION:
“That is the Church of Christ that all men must join; and the one and only messenger is our brother Felix Manalo.”
PASUGO Agosto-Setyembre 1964, p. 5:
“Kailan napatala sa Pamahalaan o narehistro ang INK sa Pilipinas? Noong Hulyo 27, 1914. Tunay na sinasabi sa rehistro na si Kapatid na F. Manalo ang nagtatag ng INK.”
TRANSLATION:
“When was the INC in the Philippines registered? In July 27, 1914. It is true that the registry says that Brother F. Manalo is the one who founded the INC.”
George Lamsa Translation???
September 13, 2009
INC cultist ministers are always quoting George Lamsa Bible translation. His Bible translation though tainted in areas is for the most part agreeable with other translations. But where Lamsa actually interprets the Scripture is found in his Idioms in the Bible explained and the key to the original gospels written by Lamsa in 1971 published by Harper Collins. He has a allegorical interpretation ignoring the plain literal translation. The back cover states that this book goes far in correcting such error that have crept into biblical scholarship. In this book he explains his interpretation of the scripture of his Bible –he believes these are figures of speech and not literal. Here are just a few examples.
Bible= Gen.1:3 “Let there be light”
Lamsa’s interpretation =”Let there be enlightenment
Bible=Gen.2:9 “Tree of life in the midst of the Garden”
Lamsa interpretation = Sex , posterity
Bible= Gen.5:24 God took Enoch (Heb.11:5 States expressly he did not see death)
Lamsa interpretation= He died painlessly, he had a heart attack
Bible=Gen.3:24 wrestling with the angel of the Lord
Lamsa interpretation = Being suspicious of a pious person
Bible=Ex.3:2 the burning bush not consumed
Lamsa interpretation = difficulties ahead difficulties will be overcome
Bible= Ex.3:5 Take off your shoes for you are on Holy ground.
Lamsa interpretation =Disregard pagan teachings, cleanse your heart
Bible= John 1 the word was God
Lamsa interpretation = the word is - a utterance, a command
Bible= John 1:18 the only begotten son
Lamsa interpretation= The first one who recognized the fatherhood of God. The only God-like man; hence, a spiritual son of God.
Bible= John 3:3 Born again
Lamsa interpretation= to become like a child, to start all over.
Bible=Jn.10:36 I and my father are one
Lamsa interpretation = the father and I agree.
Bible= 1 Thess. 4:17 to meet him in the air
Lamsa interpretation = to hasten to greet him
Bible= Rev.1:18 was dead and behold I am Alive forevermore.
Lamsa interpretation= I was unknown and now I am well and successful
Its obvious with only these few examples that the Lamsa’s interpretation of the Bible is tainted by a certain view, of anti-supernaturalism. There are many other scriptures that can be cited on this, while not everything he says is wrong because he believes it all relates to Aramaic language and not Hebrew or Greek it becomes a wrong understanding in areas. This would show up in certain places of his Bible translation that is from the Aramaic. Now wonder, cults like Jehovah’s Witnessess and the INC always quote the Lamsa Translation.
Manalo, INC and the Philippine Politics
September 12, 2009
Erano G. Manalo, cult leader and the executive minister of INC dies, he leaves the church his father founded to become the biggest indigenous church in the country.
During his administration, the church experience growth and expansion in the country and in some parts of the world where there are Filipino residents. Factors that contributed to its growth are the teaching that only INC is the true church, the fear that outsiders will be burn to hell and the use of mass media to spread their own belief albeit without website in this information age. Critically attacking both the Catholics, Protestants and other denominations, INC’s trademarks are rude and impolite in some manners. There is even voice recordings of their executive minister speaking with rage on their ministers though some insiders consider Erano to be much better compared to his father founder for its temperament. The former is said to be cold and an aggressive person.
Block voting is INC’s trademark. It cast a shadow of apprehension for the politicians vying to run and would make a contribution to the church. The INC on the other hand endorses the politician regardless of its religious background.
During the tumultuous times of the 70’s and early 80’s, INC leadership gives it all out support to Ferdinand E. Marcos, despite widespread corruption and human rights violation, the INC leadership supports the dictator.
Then came the people power but the INC didn’t bulge, during the first free election for the 20 years, the INC supported candidate Danding Cojangco, a Marcos loyalist with catastrophic results. But nevertheless, INC has palace insiders and the government has some big contracts given to some INC prominent members.
The Catholic Church and some militant protestant churches never capitalized on elections but instead give guidelines to their members on how to choose a leader. Much of these characters are being honest, morally upright person and a trustworthy public servant.
Against all odds, the INC again chooses a wrong candidate to become a president in the name of Joseph Estrada, a known womanizer, drinker, a college drop out and a guilty plunderer. Even if Estrada is declared president, the celebration is short since he was ousted by people power 2. But the INC staged it’s version of people power, a people power without the usual prayer meeting, without singing, without the spirit of EDSA. It is a people power with just a horde of people mostly INC members, poor and illiterate with orange t-shirts, reminiscent of the party color of their disgrace leader.
Without divine guidance, people power 3 failed and 4 of the mob was killed. 3 of them are INC members.
INC’s legacy is mixed; it contributed great in some aspects but brought horrendous terrible consequences for those who believe its lies. INC is just a creation of self proclaim messiahs who for their beliefs blinded millions of illiterate Filipinos and leading them to the dark abyss.
Tide has change; old leaders have come to past. You could not hide the truth. Information is readily available and can be access everywhere. This is the time of critical thinking and a new beginning. I believe the INC youth of today are curious about their controversial church history, their leader’s beginnings and the INC’s manipulation of the truth. It is not a church of freedom, but a church of pure manipulation and ultimate submission to their followers.
2Cr 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
Mayroon bang Iglesia ni Cristo sa Bibliya?
September 11, 2009
Mayroon bang iglesia ni Cristo sa Bibliya?? Sagot..wala!!! Basahin ang Rom. 16:16 (Romans 16:16: “Greet one another with a holy kiss. All the churches of Christ greet you”. Ang nakasulat ay churches of Christ o mga iglesia ni Cristo,in other words dapat MINK ang tawag sa kanila (mga iglesia ni Cristo). O kahit na mayroong mga iglesia ni Cristo, hindi naman si Manalo ang naunang nagpangalan niyan sapagkat ang dami ring sekta ang gumamit ng pangalang iyan halimbawa: Churches of Christ (1906), Churches of Christ in Australia (19th century), The Independent Christian Churches/Churches of Christ (1926), International Churches of Christ (1860), Church of Christ (Latter Day Saints)-orhinal na pangalan ngMormons (1830) at ang dami pa pong iba…isama muna rin ang UCCP- United Church of Christ in the Philippines…
D parin po uubra ang pangalang Iglesia ni Cristo sapagkat dati ang tawag nila ay INK naging INC. Besides marami pong verses na church of God sa Bible…e di church of God ang tama..kung pangalan ang basehan..??
Summarized:
1Cr 1:2- church of God in Corinth
2Cr 1:1- church of God in Corinth
2Th 1:1- church of the Thessalonians in God our Father
Act 20:28- church of God
1Cr 10:32- the church of God
1Cr 11:22- church of God
1Cr 12:28- church of God
1Cr 15:9- church of God
Gal 1:13- church of God
1Ti 3:15- church of the living God
iglesia ni Kristo ay hindi legitimate na opisyal na pangalan .. ito ay nag-sisilbing pantukoy lamang katulad ng 7 churches sa aklat ng revelation
churches in Ephesus
churches in Smyrna
churches in Pergamum
churches in Thyatira
churches in Sardis
churches in Philadelphia
churches in Laodicea
Pero teka meron namang INC ah, asan??
Iglesia ni Cristo sa Punta, Santa Ana
Iglesia ni Cristo sa Tondo
Iglesia ni Cristo sa Quezon City
Sabi ng INC si Felix ang ANghel, e bat Bababe????
September 9, 2009
Deity of Jesus Christ (Sagot sa Libro ni Manlo na Christ-God: False)
The deity of Christ is usually the central issue; first let us look at the great difference the Word of God places between God and his creation, between the Creator and mankind whom He has made
GOD Matt. 19:26- All things possible with God
MAN Luke 12:26– All things not possible with man
GOD Deut. 33:27- God is Eternal
MAN Is. 40:6- Man not eternal, but like the grass of the field
GOD 1 Tim. 6:16- God is immortal
MAN Is. 51:12- Man is mortal
In Isaiah 42:8, we are told not to trust in man, but in God alone. Paul tells us in Romans 1:25 of the error of worshipping or serving any created thing and not the creator. With this in mind, let us see what the Scriptures teach about the nature and character of Christ.
GOD- Psalm 90:2-everlasting (Heb. “olam”)
JESUS CHRIST- Micah 5:2-from eternity (Heb. “olam”)
GOD- Is. 44: 6-the First and the Last
JESUS CHRIST Rev. 1:17, 18-the First and the Last
GOD Jer. 23:24-Fills all
JESUS CHRIST Eph. 4:10-Fills all things
GOD Mal.3:6-Unchanging
JESUS CHRIST Heb. 13:8-Unchanging
GOD Ps 135:6-Does whatever he pleases
JESUS CHRIST Jn 5:19- Does whatever the Father doe
GOD Is. 43:3- The Holy One
JESUS CHRIST Acts 3:14-The Holy One
GOD Deut. 32:4-Sinless
JESUS CHRIST Heb. 4:15-Sinless
GOD Gen.1:1-Creator
JESUS CHRIST John 1:1-Creator
GOD Neh. 9:6-Sustainer of All
JESUS CHRIST Col. 1:17-Sustainer of All
GOD Acts 17:28; Job 12:10-The Life Giver
JESUS CHRIST John 14:6; 10:28-The Life and the Life Giver
GOD 1 Tim. 6:15-King of Kings
JESUS CHRIST Rev. 19:16-King of Kings
GOD Psalm 145:13-Has an everlasting kingdom
JESUS CHRIST Daniel 7:14-Messiah has an everlasting kingdom
GOD 1 Kings 8:39-Knows men’s heart
JESUS CHRIST Jn 2:25; Rev. 2:23-Knows men’s heart
GOD Gen. 18:25- Judge of all
JESUS CHRIST 2 Cor. 5:10-Judge of every person
GOD Ps. 103:19-Ruler & Lord of All
JESUS CHRIST Acts 10:36-Lord of All
GOD Zech. 14:9-The Only Lord
JESUS CHRIST 1 Cor. 8:6-The One Lord
In conclusion, Jesus was not merely a man but a God who became man, any church who does not recognize this qualifies Him to be a cult- Iglesia ni Cristo (Manalo) is one great example
Jesus is God, Eranio is Man
August 2, 2009
Evil Preacher Erano Manalo says that Islam is the Most Evil Goverment in the Face of the Earth!!!
February 10, 2009
IGLESIA NI CRISTO & DINUGUAN
January 8, 2009
1 Corinthians 10:27 If some unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience.
So pag nasa party pupuwede naman kainin kahit ano pero yung mga takot kumain ay may mahihinang pananampalataya. Sino po sila? Mga INC po natin na kapatid, mga mahihinang pananampalataya at mali-mali. Hayaan lang natin sila kumain ng fruits and vegetables.
Membership of INC (Iglesia ni Cristo 1914)
October 30, 2008
Dr. Melanio P. Gabriel Jr. a one-time VIP of INC wrote in his handbook wrote in his book, “ANG MGA LIHIM AT KABULAAN NG IGLESIA NI CRISTO” that as of 1979, the membership of the INC was 508,350. This is contrary to millions as reported by the INC newspapers. Below are some of their erroneous reports as regards their membership:
Year INC Membership Where Published
1949 4, 000, 000 Pasugo, August, 1954.pp.5-6
1950 2, 000, 000 Pasugo, Dec., 1955, pp.35-36.
1951 2, 000, 000 Pasugo, July, 1951, p.24
1955 1, 000, 000 Pasugo, July, 1964, p.23
1961 4, 000, 000 Manila Times, Oct. 13, 1961.
1963 3, 500, 000 Sunday Times mag., Apr. 28, 1963.
1964 3, 000, 000 Sunday Times mag., Aug. 09, 1964.
1965 4, 000, 000 Phil. Herald, Nov.1, 1965.
1966 5, 000, 000 Pasugo. July.1966, p.6 58.
The above figures show the unreliability of the INC in its membership report. And this is not statistical error but rather a deliberate attempt on the part of the INC’s hierarchy to hide the truth from the poelple. This is affirmed in Dr. Gabriel’s book “Ang Mga Lihim at Kabulaan ng Igleisa ni Cristo”( manalo) where it pointed out the deliberate attempt of the INC’s hierarchy to miscopy and misinterpret Bible passages.
Wala Pala ang Diyos Dito, huhuhu (Iglesia ni Cristo 1914)
July 9, 2008
Acts 17:24 (New International Version)
24“The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. (Pag-isispan po natin, si Hesus kailanman ay hindi nag-utos na gumawa ng magagarang templo o mansyon sa mga punong mangangaral. Asno lamang ang kanyang sinasakyan at pinanganak lamang sa hamak na sabsaban. Malayong malayo sa mga taga INC na kahit walang sasakyan at lumalakad sa init ng araw at nakabarong o di kaya naka amerikana pag nagsisimba.
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